pardon the newbie question. I am looking for a way to control el wire through a computer (program) in real time. Ideally this would be a solution that I could plug into a usb port or something, and have my program light up different strands at different times (blink!). Anyone ever try this, or could point me in the right direction. I am new to el wire, and not an ee (never programmed a circuit board) although I am eager to jump in and learn. Thanks!
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Re: computer controlled sequencing
Thu, November 29, 2007 - 10:27 PMTry talking to Shiva Vista or the Lotus girls. They both use computer controlled sequensing for other purposes (propane triggers) but the back end should be the same...
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Fri, November 30, 2007 - 7:30 AMI think your best way of getting an easy-to-use control signal out of a computer is through the parallel port. The pins on the parallel port are at "TTL levels" meaning that they are around 0V if off, and 5V if high. You can control the individual pins through software. (If you are using a laptop that doesn't have a parallel port, I believe you can get an adapter that converts a USB port into a parallel port, like www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...tails.asp but I haven't actually tried this.)
You don't want to directly drive anything off of your parallel port - your computer cannot deliver much power to a load on one of those pins.
But, you can use a chip called a ULN2003 that lets a TTL-level signal drive a large load - or rather, lets up to 7 different signals drive 7 different loads. These chips are pretty cheap, you can get them at Fry's (or at least you can get a knock-off there) or order them online. I have only tried using this to drive LED arrays; since EL wire is AC you might need to do something a bit more clever to handle the positive and negative swings. -
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Fri, November 30, 2007 - 8:28 AMNice....
Actually, you could then take the TTL signals as the switch for the El Wire Drivers. Then you could have an 8 port sequencer with a fixed pattern controlled by the ttl signal #1, and a single 'humminhgbird pulse' on signal #2, etc. -
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Fri, November 30, 2007 - 10:23 AMIf you're looking for an easy-to-program, standards-based, open source, very flexible platform for sequencing EL wire, I'd suggest looking at the Arduino project. It's fast becoming the controller of choice for all sorts of physical device control.
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Fri, November 30, 2007 - 8:41 PMThanks all for the helpful suggestions. I am looking into all these options, will post again with results (but more likely more questions ;)
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Re: computer controlled sequencing
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 6:06 AM
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Sat, December 1, 2007 - 7:07 AMCheck out the LED-Wiz:
groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php
It's designed to let you design LED light sequences controlled through your USB port.
There's even some software for it to be sound responsive.
I haven't looked at it closely, and I doubt it will power your El-wire wire directly, but it's worth looking at. -
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 8:18 AMHere's one on sale with free shipping:
www.ultimarc.com/ipacve.html
We ordered it for controlling the input interface on Zsu Zsu:
www.MutantVehicle.com/zsu_zsu.htm
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Sat, December 8, 2007 - 1:48 PMI like the PicAxe microcontroller (www.picaxe.co.uk), basically a simple computer-on-a-chip with a 'bootstrap' program that lets you write Basic programs on your PC and download them into permanent flash memory. Hook up the outputs to L401E3 triacs to switch the ground side of your EL wire. There are more powerful and versatile microcontrollers but PicAxe is cheap and easy (less cheap due to the weak $ though). A good way to get into it.
I use a free PCB program called FreePCB. Takes time to learn and $ to make boards but it's fun and worth it if you want to get serious.
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Sat, December 8, 2007 - 6:40 PMYou might also check out a blog I started when I decided to make an 80-channel EL wire sequencer using a Jackrabbit Single Board Computer. I've got photos, schematics, and other information on interfacing TTL with EL-wire control. I'm sure there's SOMETHING here worth stealing. :)
www.oceanbeach.com/ches/tra...ndex.html
I have not updated this thing in a long time. I still am hoping to do some sort of a crazy multi-channel light sequencer for next year, but I've decided to switch to LED rope light instead.
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Re: 'computer' controlled sequencing
Fri, March 21, 2008 - 4:05 PMHi Chris and all,
Ok, depending on what you actually want to do and your target cost point, one can do various things.
Here's a guy who made a PIC microcontroller based EL Wire sequencer on the cheap, even provided the source code for the contoller:
See:
www.makezine.com/extras/13.html
There is a caveate' with the above, some EL AC inverters (the little box which whines and provides power for the EL Wire), use a different common voltage than that of the microcontrollers and won't work. People get around that problem by isolating the driver circuit from the AC inverter using optical-triac isolators and then switching the AC to the EL Wire. Experiment a little, find what works for you, inverters are so cheap who cares if you smoke one?
However if patterns aren't that important, you could track down those clear plastic five or six colored flashing LED glow sticks which people (like me stick in each hand & dance around) and use 'it' as the sequencer. In these things, you just pull out the LED and tap off the signal to your triacs which then switch the EL Wire inverter's 90 Volt outputs to the EL Wire. The glow stick can be had in the toy district of LA for 6 sticks in a bag for $5.
Or you can buy something canned for around $75.
Hope this helps?
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Fri, March 21, 2008 - 4:15 PMHi Tron
Thanks for the response, that's a pretty nifty setup that guy has.
I'm not an electronicker and so I don't understand something you said, and I hope you can help expand my knowledge by explaining: what is this "common voltage"? When I've made PIC-based stuff, I've used a 7805 voltage regulator to power the PIC from a 9V battery which is the same sort of battery that powers my EL AC inverter. Note that I haven't made any PIC-based EL sequencers, only LED sequencers. Would this regulator solve the common voltage issue for an EL sequencer?
Thanks!
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Thu, March 27, 2008 - 12:49 AMHi Jason,
Western circuit design practice typically references microntroller 'gnd' (pwr-supply '-', assuming not bi-polar, as the common reference voltage. It is the power-pole to which everything returns. PICs reference common to VsubSS (-), while Eastern circuit designers often reference return to '+' instead and this causes the problem. If you onverter uses '-' of the battery for common, no problem, just wire '-' to blk lead on the battery terminal, no need for opto-isolater between PIC outputs and triac switches, capece?
Good luck..and have fun...
Love - tron
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Re: 'computer' controlled sequencing
Fri, March 21, 2008 - 4:15 PM
Hi Tron
Thanks for the response, that's a pretty nifty setup that guy has.
I'm not an electronicker and so I don't understand something you said, and I hope you can help expand my knowledge by explaining: what is this "common voltage"? When I've made PIC-based stuff, I've used a 7805 voltage regulator to power the PIC from a 9V battery which is the same sort of battery that powers my EL AC inverter. Note that I haven't made any PIC-based EL sequencers, only LED sequencers. Would this regulator solve the common voltage issue for an EL sequencer?
Thanks!
Jason
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